Das Wettringer Modellbauforum

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The Royal Navy used only the highest quality Stockholm Tar. They had a trade deal which gave them the monopoly on it. The colour varied depending on the tree, where it was grown as well as the production process, from a pale golden to black. So essentially there is no right or wrong regarding the colour. Standing rigging would be heavily coated and as a result probably darker. Running rigging was natural hemp. Ratlines would be tarred but less than the shrouds so the colour would depend on which barrel was opened!

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I think part of the discussion needs to redefine what is meant by “tar” on historical ships. Tar can mean everything from thick molasses stuff to turpentine like stuff in consistency. If we accept the premise that natural fiber line can last longer in a marine environment if its painted or impregnated with tar, then we need to understand what was actually used. What we often think of as “Tar“ can and often should be cut with turpentine or linseed oil or both, this allows it to flow better and penetrate the fibers of a rope. Full strength unadulterated pine tar has the consistency of molasses and appears black and is very gloppy. Repeated applications of this thick tar will eventually produce a thick black opaque coating and this is why shrouds and standing rigging is black, they have many coats of tar applied to them eventually leading to a hard shell of tar which keeps the water out.

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I think a very thin consistency pine tar was painted or rubbed on all but a very few lines including ratlines. Also I have read (don’t remember where now) that pine tar was already in the rope when it arrived at the ship, having been applied at the ropewalk in a thinned solution or rubbed on with a rag to produce a coating that would penetrate the fibers and add to the lines longevity. But I don’t think it would have been applied in thick enough or repeated coatings sufficient to make the ratlines black.

So, think of “pine tar” as thick or thin. Thick stuff on standing rigging...thin stuff on running rigging including ratlines. The thin stuff would not turn the lines dark like the layers applied to the standing shrouds. Maybe it makes more sense to think of ratlines as “oiled” rather than “tarred.”

Zitat von »feuermann6147«

soweit mein Kenntnisstand ist, war stehendes Gut geteert oder mit anderen Mitteln "haltbar" gemacht und so vor Wind, Wetter und vor allem Meer geschützt. Daher bei fast allen Modellen die ich kenne eine eher dunkle Farbe für das stehende und eine hellere für das laufende Gut.

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und auch ist der Teer nicht so wie wir unseren heutigen Straßenteer haben. Es ist eher ein Öl, das in verschiedenen Konsistenzen verfügbar ist.

Zitat von »dafi«

In der Regel waren alle Taue geteert, auch die Webleinen, manche eben mehr oder weniger. Stehendes Gut wurde nur häufiger überstrichen und wurde dadurch dunkler. Bei den Franzosen schön zu sehen: Die Hermione hatte am Anfang fast die gleiche Farbe für alle Taue, nach jeder neuen Teerschicht wird das Gut etwas dunkler. 50.000 Shades of Brown sozusagen.

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In echt sieht aber nicht alles so sauber, exakt und akurat aus Da versteckt sich dann doch die ein oder andere "Schlamperei"